May 4, 2021 • 53M

Central Division 036: A Time for Optimism

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A weekly conversation about style, travel, food, and culture (plus some sports) between David Coggins and Michael Williams.
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The Optimist is here, so we celebrate David’s big day. He talks about the book, being illustrated in the New Yorker and what it’s like letting something you’ve worked on go out into the world. 

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